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    Me lo immagino alla Sheldon Cooper che dice alla dottora e
    all'ingegnere che le loro ricerche non possono essere definite
    scienza. <br>
    Farebbe molto ridere. Altrimenti va bene anche una cosa alla Reid di
    Criminal Minds... meno divertente.<br>
    <br>
    Maddy<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 22/10/2014 21:40, Reis Squiretaker
      ha scritto:<br>
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          <div>sullo scienziato rimane aperta la tua proposta</div>
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          <div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px"><font face="Verdana"><font
                style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">UFFICIALE SCIENTIFICO:</font></font></div>
          <div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px"><font face="Verdana"><strong
                style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">(Franco
                  - Umano) </font></strong><font style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Un
                genio della scienza, magari con una forma particolare
                della sindrome di Asperger (una forma di autismo che in
                certi casi crea soggetti con particolari abilità
                mentali). Se volete farmi un'idea guardate la serie tv
                "Scorpion" li sono tutti così</font></font></div>
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          <div style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px"><font face="Verdana">che
              potremmo anche ampliare utilizzando qualche idea da The
              Big Bang Theory.. sempre che a qualcuno piaccia come idea</font></div>
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                    title="francocarretti@mail.com"
                    href="mailto:francocarretti@mail.com">Franco
                    Carretti</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:41 PM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="stml17@gioco.net"
                    href="mailto:stml17@gioco.net">stml17@gioco.net</a>
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stml17] Razze aggiornata</div>
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                <div>L'idea della Consigliere Bajoriana era solo per
                  evitare di copiare la Troj usando un consigliere
                  Betazoide, con l'idea di vanessa (che non è male anche
                  la consigliera bionda) però avremmo un buco libero
                  sullo scienziato (secondo me la rivincita delle bionde
                  sta molto bene sullo scienziato).</div>
                <div> </div>
                <div>Comunque supponendo un cambio di personalità fra lo
                  scienziato e il consigliere, cosa proporreste per lo
                  scienziato (sia come razza che come personalità)?</div>
                <div> </div>
                <div>Non abbiamo deciso nulla quindi possiamo ancora
                  rivoluzionare la cosa</div>
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                    <div style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px"><b>Sent:</b>
                      Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 6:43 PM<br>
                      <b>From:</b> Maddalena
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vampitrill@gmail.com"><vampitrill@gmail.com></a><br>
                      <b>To:</b> "USS Hope" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stml17@gioco.net"><stml17@gioco.net></a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stml17] Razze aggiornata</div>
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                      <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">Per
                        la consigliera io avrei proposto betazoide,
                        perchè più della bajoriana corrisponde
                        nell'immaginario all'idea della gnoccona. O
                        risiana anche... ma così avremo qualche
                        doppione. Forse potremmo scambiare le razze
                        dell'ufficiale scientifico e della consigliera?<br>
                        Per le adozioni, potrei prendere la dottora a
                        questo punto.<br>
                        <br>
                        Maddy
                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 22/10/2014
                          18:27, Franco Carretti ha scritto:</div>
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                              <div>La dottoressa trill è un errore mio
                                me la sono scordata. Per il capo sec
                                betazed è stata invasa dal dominio? io
                                ho messo bajor perchè non mi veniva in
                                mente altro.</div>
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                              <div>Quindi:</div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
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                                  normal">Capitano: Umano (lo adotto io)</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
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                                  normal">Primo ufficiale: Andoriana</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
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                                  normal">Consigliere: Bajoriano</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: verdana; LINE-HEIGHT:
                                  normal">Capo operazioni: Umano</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: verdana; LINE-HEIGHT:
                                  normal">Ingegnere capo: Umano</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: verdana; LINE-HEIGHT:
                                  normal">Capo sicurezza: Betazoide </div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: verdana; LINE-HEIGHT:
                                  normal">Ufficiale tattico: Vulcaniano</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
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                                    19px">Ufficiale </span>medico:
                                  Trill non unita</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
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                                    19px">Ufficiale </span>scientifico:
                                  Risiana</div>
                                <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: verdana; LINE-HEIGHT:
                                  normal">Timoniere: Umana/klingon</div>
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                                  <div style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px"><b>Sent:</b>
                                    Wednesday, October 22, 2014 at 5:58
                                    PM<br>
                                    <b>From:</b> "Federico Pirazzoli" <a
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                                    <b>To:</b> "Franco Carretti" <a
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                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stml17] Razze</div>
                                  <div>Condivido quasi tutto...<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Solo 2 modifiche (imho):<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Dottoressa Trill non unita scartata
                                    dalla commissione simbionti<br>
                                    Scambierei le razze del consigliere
                                    e capo sec...per 2 motivi:<br>
                                    1) lato consigliere sfatiamo il mito
                                    del consigliere telepate<br>
                                    2) lato capo sec, giocando bene i
                                    tempi poteva essere nella resistenza
                                    contro l'occupazione del Dominio, o
                                    comunque averla vissuta perdendo
                                    parenti e amici, cosa che lo ha
                                    segnato<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Il 22/ott/2014 17:31 Franco Carretti
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                                    ha scritto:<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > Mi sembra che molti abbiano
                                    dato un parere quindi direi di fare
                                    una veloce votazione per le razze e
                                    iniziamo anche a proporre
                                    candidature per l'adozione:<br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    > Capitano: Umano (lo adotto io)<br>
                                    > Primo ufficiale: Andoriana<br>
                                    > Consigliere: Betazoide<br>
                                    > Capo operazioni: Umano<br>
                                    > Ingegnere capo: Umano<br>
                                    > Capo sicurezza: Bajoriano <br>
                                    > Ufficiale tattico: Vulcaniano<br>
                                    > Ufficiale medico: Umana<br>
                                    > Ufficiale scientifico: Risiana<br>
                                    > Timoniere: Umana/klingon<br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    > Le ho butatte li un po' così
                                    magari vi vengono idee migliori<br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, October 22,
                                    2014 at 4:33 PM<br>
                                    > From: "Massimo Gallo" <a
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                                    > To: "USS Hope" <a
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                                    > Subject: Re: [Stml17] R: Re:
                                    Personaggi<br>
                                    > Direi che appena le storie
                                    cominceranno, di intrecci e follie
                                    da sviluppare ne arriveranno a
                                    tonnellate.<br>
                                    > Intervengo per ultimo, scusate,
                                    ma devo dire che di idee ne avete
                                    tirate fuori davvero tante e alcune
                                    assolutamente pazze e divertenti.
                                    Aggiungere commenti sarebbe
                                    praticamente impossibile.<br>
                                    > Questa nave sarà uno spasso.<br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    > Le migliori?<br>
                                    > 1.Capitano scapestrato
                                    antagonista con XO Andoriana.ligia
                                    al dovere e sempre pronta ad
                                    affidarsi al manuale del perfetto
                                    ufficiale<br>
                                    > 2.Sberla come Capo Operazioni
                                    (chi altri potrebbe gestire le
                                    richieste di una nave di giovani
                                    scapestrati con gli ormoni
                                    scalpitanti e le idee confuse?)<br>
                                    > 3.La dottoressa!!!<br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    >  <br>
                                    > Il giorno 22 ottobre 2014
                                    13:41, Franco Carretti <a
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                                    ha scritto:<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> Cacchio vero! Le due che si
                                    tanno sulle scatole sono
                                    fantastiche!<br>
                                    >>  <br>
                                    >> Sta nave sarà un inferno :D<br>
                                    >>  <br>
                                    >> PS: Per la nazionalità
                                    decideremo per bene<br>
                                    >>  <br>
                                    >>  <br>
                                    >> Sent: Wednesday, October
                                    22, 2014 at 1:32 PM<br>
                                    >> From: "Federico Pirazzoli"
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                                    >> To: "Franco Carretti" <a
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                                    >> Subject: Re: [Stml17] R:
                                    Re: Personaggi<br>
                                    >> ...edit<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> Dimenticavo...quindi il
                                    pilota donna strasicura alla
                                    scorpio, migliore amica del co e con
                                    antipatia a vista per l'xo????<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> Il 22/ott/2014 09:08 Franco
                                    Carretti <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    ha scritto:<br>
                                    >> ><br>
                                    >> > Non vorrei esagerare
                                    con l'età altrimenti si perde
                                    quell'aria di ciurma di scapestrati.<br>
                                    >> > In teoria neanche
                                    Bones quando entra all'accademia non
                                    doveva essere giovanissimo.<br>
                                    >> >  <br>
                                    >> > Gli El-auriani sono
                                    troppo equilibrati per essere come è
                                    stata descritta la dottoressa.... e
                                    per finire l'oroniana in teoria non
                                    dovrebbe esserci perchè non mi pare
                                    siano mai entrati nella flotta
                                    stellare. Certo abrams ce li ha
                                    messi (fra tutte le razze aliene che
                                    poteva metterci ha meso quella che
                                    non doveva :D)<br>
                                    >> >  <br>
                                    >> > Io per l'XO, per come
                                    è stato descritto, ci vedo
                                    l'andoriana<br>
                                    >> >  <br>
                                    >> >  <br>
                                    >> >  <br>
                                    >> > Sent: Wednesday,
                                    October 22, 2014 at 7:13 AM<br>
                                    >> > From: "Federico
                                    Pirazzoli" <a
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                                    >> > To: "Franco Carretti"
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    >> > Subject: Re: [Stml17]
                                    R: Re: Personaggi<br>
                                    >> > Chiedevo perché, se ci
                                    fai caso, tutti i miei pg hanno
                                    fatto altro prima...:-) e per alcun
                                    bg, tipo il tat/sic ombroso e un po'
                                    violento ci sta che prima
                                    dell'Accademia abbia avuto
                                    esperienze cupe (io avevo suggerito
                                    la partecipazione a una resistenza
                                    e, magari, un periodo di servizio
                                    militare come fanteria - tipo
                                    Maco.)...<br>
                                    >> ><br>
                                    >> > Altro personaggio che
                                    penso ci starebbe bene, é un
                                    El-Auriano (o mezzo tale, dato che
                                    come razza é una eccezione) che con
                                    la sua lunghissima aspettativa di
                                    vita avrebbe un'ottica "aliena"
                                    rispetto all'esuberanza degli
                                    altri...ma in che ruolo? Forse la
                                    dottoressa?<br>
                                    >> ><br>
                                    >> > Passando ad altro, il
                                    capo della tattica in teoria é anche
                                    responsabile dell'armeria di bordo,
                                    quindi di tutti gli sportelli armi
                                    portatili, della manutenzione delle
                                    armi e della santabarbara.<br>
                                    >> > Forse l'unico esempio
                                    visto in tv di responsabili tattica
                                    e sicurezza distinti é in DS9, con
                                    Odo a capo della sicurezza ed
                                    Eddinghton/Worf capo della
                                    Tattica...anche se, su una nave
                                    stellare il ruolo sicurezza comporta
                                    più responsabilità da MP che da
                                    polizia civile come Odo...<br>
                                    >> ><br>
                                    >> > Ps per l'xo l'idea di
                                    usate come razza una orioniana mi
                                    piace un casino! Sarà una guerra
                                    nelle missioni di sbarco decidere
                                    chi va!<br>
                                    >> ><br>
                                    >> > Il 21/ott/2014 21:28
                                    Franco Carretti <a
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                                    ha scritto:<br>
                                    >> > ><br>
                                    >> > > Mi pare che nel
                                    regolamento ci sia scritto che i pg
                                    devono entrare all'accademia più
                                    vicino possibile ai 16 anni,
                                    naturalmente ci giostreremo intorno
                                    a quella cifra. Personalmente
                                    ritengo che il capitano più giovane
                                    possibile e completamente fuori
                                    controllo sia fantastico.<br>
                                    >> > > Comunque il
                                    minimo sono 16 anni all'entrata
                                    dell'accademia<br>
                                    >> > >  <br>
                                    >> > > Sent: Tuesday,
                                    October 21, 2014 at 9:25 PM<br>
                                    >> > > From: "Federico
                                    Pirazzoli" <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:cmdrtkar@gmail.com"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:cmdrtkar@gmail.com</a><br>
                                    >> > > To: <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net</a><br>
                                    >> > > Subject: Re:
                                    [Stml17] R: Re: Personaggi<br>
                                    >> > > Tendo a
                                    concordare con l'analisi...<br>
                                    >> > > Solo un dubbio,
                                    perché devono avere 19 anni? Quella
                                    é l'età minima, ma non é detto che
                                    tutti i cadetti si iscrivano in
                                    accademia a 16 anni.<br>
                                    >> > > Anzi, molti ha
                                    senso che ne abbiano di più...minimo
                                    21 direi, visto che le scuole
                                    superiori finiscono a 18-19...<br>
                                    >> > ><br>
                                    >> > > Il 21/ott/2014
                                    20:08 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                      href="wlmailhtml:dwalla.cons@libero.it"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:dwalla.cons@libero.it</a>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:dwalla.cons@libero.it"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:dwalla.cons@libero.it</a>
                                    ha scritto:<br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > > Prima di
                                    aggiungere il mio contributo ritengo
                                    necessaria una premessa di cui vi
                                    prego di avere pazienza. Avevo 11
                                    anni quando il mio primo fidanzatino
                                    mi fece conoscere Star Trek
                                    proponendomi di guardare le puntate
                                    della serie classica che aveva in
                                    vhs. Risultato amore a prima vista
                                    (per star trek, non per il
                                    fidanzatino... ). da allora ho visto
                                    praticamente tutte le puntate, tutti
                                    i film e ho letto anche alcuni libri
                                    (di cui alcuni in lingua originale
                                    inglese). Bene, con questo bagaglio
                                    di cultura pop alle spalle posso
                                    dire che il problema posto da Franco
                                    e Federico non è semplice
                                    (relativamente al contesto
                                    ovviamente). È mia opinione che il
                                    ruolo dell'ufficiale tattico sia
                                    secondario rispetto agli altri e
                                    molto spesso "de facto" assolto dal
                                    SEC, questo perché c'è evidentemente
                                    un problema di competenze. <br>
                                    >> > > > Dentro la
                                    nave il SEC si occupa della
                                    sicurezza ANCHE in caso di
                                    abbordaggio ed è quindi altamente
                                    addestrato nelle tecniche di difesa
                                    e battaglia in luoghi ristretti.
                                    Quindi sovrasta il TAC nelle
                                    strategie da adottare (fermo
                                    restando che la parola finale ce
                                    l'hanno il capitano e il primo
                                    ufficiale)<br>
                                    >> > > > In esterna
                                    l'away team è nella stragrande
                                    maggioranza dei casi comandato dallo
                                    XO e quindi anche qui il tac rimane
                                    sottoposto e privo di un reale
                                    potere decisionale. Salvo che la
                                    squadra si divida e quindi assume il
                                    controllo del gruppo 2.<br>
                                    >> > > > Ammiro che
                                    SFitaly habbia provato a dare
                                    maggiore dignità al ruolo, ma la
                                    realtà è che quasi nessun ufficiale
                                    tattico ha mai superato il grado di
                                    tenente e in pratica il suo compito
                                    inizia e finisce con "aim and shoot"
                                    ovvero mira e spara. <br>
                                    >> > > > dal nostro
                                    punto di vista si possono riproporre
                                    qui dinamiche di invidia tra due del
                                    corso tattica e sicurezza che sono
                                    stati messi uno nella posizione
                                    privilegiata di Sec e l'altro in
                                    quella meno ambita di Tac.<br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > > Aggiungo una
                                    cosa in merito all'età. Fatte salve
                                    le razze non umane, l'accademia
                                    inizia a 16 anni e finisce 4 anni
                                    dopo, quindi i nostri eroi
                                    dovrebbero avere tutti 19 anni
                                    (ultimo anno), ad eccezione del
                                    medico che di anni ne deve avere
                                    come minimo 24 poiché ai 3 anni di
                                    accademia già fatti, si devono
                                    aggiungere 5 anni di laurea in
                                    medicina (ergo 16+3+5=24). Più
                                    vecchi non ha senso...<br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > > Franco
                                    nessun problema... Kirk, Riker e
                                    Jadzia Dax hanno sdoganato il sesso
                                    in Star Trek ;-)<br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > > Silvia<br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > >
                                    ====================================<br>
                                    >> > > > ○○● Lt.
                                    Commander Dwalla Thevek<br>
                                    >> > > > Counselor -
                                    USS Novalis NCC-1772<br>
                                    >> > > > Private
                                    comunicator: <a
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                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:dwalla.cons@libero.com</a><br>
                                    >> > > >
                                    ====================================<br>
                                    >> > > > “When you
                                    look back, you can’t see what is
                                    coming”<br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > ><br>
                                    >> > > >>
                                    ----Messaggio originale----<br>
                                    >> > > >> Da: <a
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                                      href="wlmailhtml:vampitrill@gmail.com"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:vampitrill@gmail.com</a><br>
                                    >> > > >> Data:
                                    21-ott-2014 17.23<br>
                                    >> > > >> A: "USS
                                    Hope"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net</a><br>
                                    >> > > >> Ogg: Re:
                                    [Stml17] Personaggi<br>
                                    >> > > >><br>
                                    >> > > >>
                                    Finiranno a litigare questi due...
                                    altro che storie d'amore. Se poi il
                                    capitano e il primo ufficiale
                                    sull'onda del loro giovanile
                                    entusiasmo vogliono scendere anche
                                    loro... saranno grasse risate.<br>
                                    >> > > >><br>
                                    >> > > >> Maddy<br>
                                    >> > > >> Il
                                    21/10/2014 16:28, Franco Carretti ha
                                    scritto:<br>
                                    >> > > >>><br>
                                    >> > > >>> C'è
                                    un Ingegnere che ha le
                                    caratteristiche da te suggerite,
                                    però ben vengano altre proposte.<br>
                                    >> > > >>> Da
                                    quello che dici il tattico quindi
                                    dovrebbe prendere il comando in
                                    certi momenti... poi vabbeh i
                                    capitani vogliono fare gli sboroni<br>
                                    >> > > >>>  <br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 at
                                    4:21 PM<br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    From: "Aloisyus Majere" <a
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                                      href="wlmailhtml:a.majere@gmail.com"
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                                    >> > > >>> To:
                                    "USS Hope" <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net</a><br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    Subject: Re: [Stml17] Personaggi<br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    Allora la risposta sta nella
                                    domanda, il capo della sicurezza si
                                    occupa esclusivamente di quanto
                                    succede a bordo della nave, compiti
                                    di militar police ed intelligence
                                    controspionaggio, il TAC è addetto
                                    agli armamenti ed alle strategie
                                    della nave, regole d'ingaggio ecc.
                                    ecc., poi se guardiamo le serie
                                    canoniche troviamo il capitano della
                                    nave che comanda la squadra di
                                    sbarco ed altre cosucce che
                                    tatticamente sono un suicidio come
                                    Sisko in "L'assedio della AR-558"
                                    che pur essendo l'ufficiale tattico
                                    dell'ammiraglio William Ross va in
                                    prima linea in un'area
                                    assediata???????? Ok vuol morire.<br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    Comunque scherzi a parte i ruoli
                                    sono ben chiari in un ambito
                                    militare, nell'ambito SF un pò meno.
                                    ;)<br>
                                    >> > > >>> Devo
                                    ancora leggere tutte le mail per i
                                    ruoli, mi piacerebbe fare un
                                    burberorompiscatole tipo Bonce
                                    versione nuova, non necessariamente
                                    medico, qualcuno dei ruoli proposti
                                    ha queste caratteristiche?<br>
                                    >> > > >>>  <br>
                                    >> > > >>> Il
                                    giorno 21 ottobre 2014 13:46, Franco
                                    Carretti <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:francocarretti@mail.com"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:francocarretti@mail.com</a>
                                    ha scritto:<br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Nemmeno io ho ben capito la loro
                                    funzione ed è per questo che mi sono
                                    informato trovando su uno scaffale
                                    di  starfleet un manualetto
                                    informativo di cui vi riporto alcuni
                                    stralci:<br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    OPS – UFFICIALE CAPO OPERAZIONI <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    L’OPS (Operation Officer) è a capo
                                    delle operazioni di monitoraggio
                                    dello stato della nave. <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    E’ a capo delle operazioni di
                                    allocazione e distribuzione delle
                                    risorse alle varie sezioni secondo
                                    le necessità; queste vengono
                                    normalmente svolte dal computer ma
                                    il costante controllo dell’ufficiale
                                    preposto ne assicura il corretto
                                    andamento, specialmente nelle
                                    istanze di allerta. <br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    SEC – UFFICIALE CAPO SICUREZZA <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Il SEC è a capo del servizio di
                                    sicurezza della nave. <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Da lui dipende la sicurezza
                                    dell’equipaggio e dei passeggeri. <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    E’ responsabile per ogni
                                    investigazione a bordo e deve
                                    presentare rapporto sui relativi
                                    risultati.<br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    TAC – UFFICIALE TATTICO CAPO <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Il TAC è a capo dei sistemi di
                                    difesa e di offesa. <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Egli realizza le strategie militari
                                    ed è responsabile per la gestione
                                    del potenziale bellico.<br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Ora vorrei soffermarmi sul povero
                                    TAC... che diavolo fa?<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    In teoria controlla che abbiamo
                                    siluri e phaser in buono stato e
                                    siamo pronti a distruggere qualsiasi
                                    cosa, ma quel "realizzare strategie
                                    militari" allora cos'è?<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    I casi sono due: o prende il
                                    controllo della nave durante le
                                    battaglie, il che porterebbe a
                                    pensare che i capitani non fanno il
                                    corso navigazione e comando ma
                                    tattica e comando. O si occupa delle
                                    squadre di sbarco.<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Il secondo caso potrebbe avere
                                    senso, ma allora i casi sono due:
                                    abbiamo due distinte squadre della
                                    sicurezza? Una da sbarco e una per
                                    la nave? Perchè l'addestramento
                                    necessario non è certo lo stesso!<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    I MACO allora avrebbero un senso...
                                    truppe addestrate per la battaglia<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    E se invece abbiamo un solo tipo di
                                    squadra chi è il capo? Il tattico o
                                    quello della sicurezza?<br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Secondo me stiamo entrando in un
                                    settore inesplorato della vita di
                                    star trek e la cosa mi piace.<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Personalmente vedo il capitano più
                                    come un diplomatico/eminenza grigia
                                    che deve delegare agli esperti... in
                                    caso di battaglia spaziale il
                                    capitano ordina si l'attacco, ma poi
                                    dovrebbe rimettersi al parere del
                                    suo tattico e non ordinare manovre a
                                    sua discrezione (tranne eventuali
                                    suggerimenti)... come non può
                                    gestire le riparazioni di un motore.<br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Voi come la vedete? Così tanto per
                                    parlare...<br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 at
                                    7:54 PM<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    From: "Federico Pirazzoli" <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:cmdrtkar@gmail.com"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:cmdrtkar@gmail.com</a><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                      href="wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:stml17@gioco.net</a><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Subject: Re: [Stml17] Personaggi<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Invertirei le due proposte di
                                    Federico del tattico e del capo
                                    della sicurezza (che poi è come
                                    l'idea di Ermes sul tattico). Ci
                                    vedo più il capo della sicurezza
                                    traumatizzato e il tattico stile
                                    Elementary (parere mio eh!)<br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Per me son piuttosto
                                    intercambiabili...:-)<br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Avevo messo lo stratega della
                                    sicurezza perché é quello che
                                    dovrebbe occuparsi delle indagini
                                    (tipo Sherlock Holmes appunto) e
                                    coordinare le squadre di sicurezza
                                    tipo generale, mentre il tattico
                                    agisce da solitario...ma devo
                                    ammettere che é una mia
                                    interpretazione, non ho mai capito
                                    troppo bene dove finisce la
                                    competenza del c/tat e dove inizia
                                    quella del c/sec...<br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Però, a ben pensarci, sarebbe un bel
                                    motivo di discussione tra i due!<br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    F<br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    Stml17 mailing list<br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                      href="wlmailhtml:Stml17@gioco.net"
                                      target="_parent">wlmailhtml:Stml17@gioco.net</a><br>
                                    >> > > >>>>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://gioco.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/stml17"
                                      target="_blank">http://gioco.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/stml17</a><br>
                                    >> > > >>>> 
                                    <br>
                                    >> > > >>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    _______________________________________________
                                    Stml17 mailing list <a
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                                    >> > > >>><br>
                                    >> > > >>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    _______________________________________________<br>
                                    >> > > >>><br>
                                    >> > > >>>
                                    Stml17 mailing list<br>
                                    >> > > >>><br>
                                    >> > > >>> <a
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                                      href="wlmailhtml:Stml17@gioco.net"
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gioco.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/stml17">http://gioco.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/stml17</a>
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