<div dir="ltr">Inoltre wikipedia non è una fonte attendibile. :D<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 30 settembre 2015 13:20, federico pirazzoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cmdrtkar@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmdrtkar@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">C'è un motivo se su starfleet italy non consideriamo Wikipedia una fonte Canon :-D</div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">_________________________________________________________________________</b></div><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Da</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Comandante del sommergibile </span><i style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Sea Tiger</i><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">A</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Ufficio Approvvigionamenti Arsenale di Cavite, Filippine.</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Tramite</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Comando Forze Subacquee.</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Oggetto</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Carta igienica.</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">#1</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">. Il 6 giugno 1941 questa nave ha inoltrato una richiesta di 150 rotoli di carta igienica. Il 16 dicembre 1941 detta richiesta è stata restituita con la stampigliatura: "Materiale sconosciuto. Richiesta annullata."</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">#2</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">. Il Comandante del sommergibile </span><i style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Sea Tiger</i><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"> non può fare a meno di domandarsi cosa viene usato all'Approvvigionamento di Cavite in sostituzione di questo "materiale sconosciuto", un tempo perfettamente noto a questo Comando. </span><br><div><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">_________________________________________________________________________</span></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">Il giorno 30 settembre 2015 13:11, Paulo Rodriguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gm.paulo.rodriguez@gmail.com" target="_blank">gm.paulo.rodriguez@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div><div>Quello... anche.. :P pero Wikipedia dice:</div><div><br></div><div>" primi tre film furono prodotti dal 1977 al 1983 e formarono la cosiddetta trilogia originale[1]"</div><div>E poi:</div><div>"Dal 1999 al 2005 George Lucas produsse la cosiddetta Trilogia Prequel formata dai film: Episodio I, Episodio II, Episodio III" </div><div>Io le mettevo in ordine "cronologico" ma sempre due trilogie sono!</div><span><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:8px;color:#575757">Inviato da Samsung Mobile.</div></div><br><br><div>-------- Messaggio originale --------</div></span><div>Da: federico pirazzoli <u></u> </div><div>Data:30/09/2015  12:57  (GMT+01:00) </div><div>A: USS Hope <u></u> </div><div>Oggetto: Re: [Stml17] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: [Tucci] 2.07 - Ricerca e Sviluppo </div><div><div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Mi sa che il nostro Rodriguez ha cominciato ad assumere cose brutte durante i suei giri...si è addirittura immaginato tre film...</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">_________________________________________________________________________</b></div><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Da</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Comandante del sommergibile </span><i style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Sea Tiger</i><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">A</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Ufficio Approvvigionamenti Arsenale di Cavite, Filippine.</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Tramite</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Comando Forze Subacquee.</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Oggetto</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">: Carta igienica.</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">#1</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">. Il 6 giugno 1941 questa nave ha inoltrato una richiesta di 150 rotoli di carta igienica. Il 16 dicembre 1941 detta richiesta è stata restituita con la stampigliatura: "Materiale sconosciuto. Richiesta annullata."</span><br style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">#2</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">. Il Comandante del sommergibile </span><i style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Sea Tiger</i><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"> non può fare a meno di domandarsi cosa viene usato all'Approvvigionamento di Cavite in sostituzione di questo "materiale sconosciuto", un tempo perfettamente noto a questo Comando. </span><br><div><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">_________________________________________________________________________</span></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 30 settembre 2015 12:51, Maddalena <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vampitrill@gmail.com" target="_blank">vampitrill@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    No, non li hai visti. Non possono esistere. E' un incubo e basta.<div><div><br>
    <br>
    <div>Il 30/09/2015 12:46, Paulo Rodriguez ha
      scritto:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div>Come sarebbe non è mai stata girata, io i film li ho visti :P</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <div style="font-size:8px;color:#575757">Inviato da Samsung
          Mobile.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div>-------- Messaggio originale --------</div>
      <div>Da: Silvia Brunati <u></u> <u></u></div>
      <div>Data:30/09/2015 12:38 (GMT+01:00) </div>
      <div>A: USS Hope <u></u> <u></u></div>
      <div>Oggetto: Re: [Stml17] R: Re: R: Re: [Tucci] 2.07 - Ricerca e
        Sviluppo </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>
          <div>Ehm scusa se ti correggo la prima che dici tu non è mai
            stata girata.<br>
          </div>
          C'è solo una trilogia.<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        Silvia<br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 30 settembre 2015 12:29,
          Paulo Rodriguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gm.paulo.rodriguez@gmail.com" target="_blank">gm.paulo.rodriguez@gmail.com</a>></span>
          ha scritto:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div>
              <div>Sì la prima è la storia di anakim skywalker e il suo
                avvicinamento al lato oscuro, la seconda la storia
                dell'impero Luke skywalker ecc!</div>
              <span>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div style="font-size:8px;color:#575757">Inviato da
                    Samsung Mobile.</div>
                </div>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div>-------- Messaggio originale --------</div>
              </span>
              <div>Da: Massimo Gallo </div>
              <div>Data:30/09/2015 12:19 (GMT+01:00) </div>
              <div>A: USS Hope </div>
              <div>Oggetto: Re: [Stml17] R: Re: [Tucci] 2.07 - Ricerca e
                Sviluppo </div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <p dir="ltr">Seconda trilogia?<br>
                    Hanno fatto una seconda trilogia?<br>
                    Davvero?</p>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">Il 30/set/2015 12:17, "Paulo
                    Rodriguez" <<a href="mailto:gm.paulo.rodriguez@gmail.com" target="_blank">gm.paulo.rodriguez@gmail.com</a>>
                    ha scritto:<br type="attribution">
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div>
                        <div>E questo la dice lunga sulla seconda
                          trilogia :P</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div style="font-size:8px;color:#575757">Inviato
                            da Samsung Mobile.</div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <div>-------- Messaggio originale --------</div>
                        <div>Da: Franco Carretti </div>
                        <div>Data:30/09/2015 12:11 (GMT+01:00) </div>
                        <div>A: <a href="mailto:stml17@gioco.net" target="_blank">stml17@gioco.net</a> </div>
                        <div>Oggetto: Re: [Stml17] [Tucci] 2.07 -
                          Ricerca e Sviluppo </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px">
                          <div>
                            <div>La chiacchierata mi va più che bene,
                              volevo solo precisare che la cosa va presa
                              così com'è.</div>
                            <div>La formica con tante spade c'è già in
                              sw... anche se è un robot malaticcio :)</div>
                            <div> 
                              <div name="quote" style="margin:10px 5px 5px 10px;padding:10px 0 10px 10px;border-left:2px solid #c3d9e5;word-wrap:break-word">
                                <div style="margin:0 0 10px 0"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday,
                                  September 30, 2015 at 8:33 AM<br>
                                  <b>From:</b> "federico pirazzoli" <<a href="mailto:cmdrtkar@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cmdrtkar@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmdrtkar@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                  <b>To:</b> "USS Hope" <<a href="mailto:stml17@gioco.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:stml17@gioco.net" target="_blank">stml17@gioco.net</a>><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stml17] [Tucci]
                                  2.07 - Ricerca e Sviluppo</div>
                                <div name="quoted-content">
                                  <p style="margin-top:0.0px">A parte il
                                    quotone, credo che si trattasse
                                    principalmente di una discussione
                                    tra nerd (peraltro io facevo una
                                    riflessione sulle navette citate da
                                    Luna nel suo brano)...</p>
                                  <p>OT - Comunque il tuo esempio delle
                                    formiche con mandibole laser mi ha
                                    fatto capottare dalla sedia per il
                                    ridere! Mi sono immaginato tre 
                                    formiche con mantelli neri e spadine
                                    laser rosse in ogni mano...</p>
                                  <p>Poi mi sono ricordato che il
                                    marchio di SW é in mano alla Disney
                                    e ho smesso di ridere, chiedendomi
                                    quanto di ciò che ho immaginato lo
                                    vedrò in Episodio VII... - OT</p>
                                  <p>--<br>
                                    Inviato da myMail per Android</p>
                                  mercoledì, 30 settembre 2015, 00:02AM
                                  +02:00 da "Franco Carretti" <<a href="http://ferris.bueller@mail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ferris.bueller@mail.com" target="_blank">ferris.bueller@mail.com</a>>:<br>
                                   
                                  <blockquote style="border-left:1.0px solid rgb(252,44,56);margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;padding:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px">
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px">
                                            <div>Non capisco il
                                              problema, abbiamo tre
                                              navette biposto
                                              sconosciute (e se sono
                                              biposto vuol dire che sono
                                              davvero piccole perchè se
                                              non sbaglio il delta flyer
                                              porta fino a 6 persone)
                                              che hanno messo in fuga un
                                              falco da guerra. Non si
                                              tratta di navi federali e
                                              armi federali, dobbiamo
                                              semplicemente fare in modo
                                              che poi risulti coerente.</div>
                                            <div> </div>
                                            <div>Se NON era possibile
                                              una cosa del genere vi
                                              avrei fermato e avrei
                                              pregato Ermes di sistemare
                                              il suo pezzo, se non ho
                                              detto niente è evidente
                                              che la cosa vada bene
                                              (fermo restando che venga
                                              trovata una spiegazione
                                              decente).</div>
                                            <div>Basta che 3 piccole
                                              formiche siano attrezzate
                                              con mandibole laser per
                                              far fuggire un elefante.</div>
                                            <div> </div>
                                            <div> 
                                              <div style="margin:10.0px 5.0px 5.0px 10.0px;padding:10.0px 0 10.0px 10.0px;border-left:2.0px solid rgb(195,217,229)">
                                                <div style="margin:0 0 10.0px 0"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
                                                  September 29, 2015 at
                                                  11:01 PM<br>
                                                  <b>From:</b> "federico
                                                  pirazzoli" <<a></a><a href="mailto:cmdrtkar@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmdrtkar@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> "USS Hope"
                                                  <<a></a><a href="mailto:stml17@gioco.net" target="_blank">stml17@gioco.net</a>><br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                                  [Stml17] [Tucci] 2.07
                                                  - Ricerca e Sviluppo</div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p style="margin-top:0.0px">Provo
                                                    ad aggiungere una
                                                    riflessione e prima
                                                    pongo una domanda:
                                                    da dove vengono
                                                    fuori 'ste navette
                                                    biposto con potenza
                                                    pari ad una Defiant?</p>
                                                  <p>Ciò premesso
                                                    esprimo quella che é
                                                    solo una mia
                                                    valutazione, che
                                                    potrei modificare in
                                                    ragione della
                                                    risposta alla
                                                    domanda precedente:</p>
                                                  <p>- Una navetta come
                                                    quella descritta
                                                    credo dovrebbe
                                                    essere basata sulla
                                                    struttura del delta
                                                    flyer, che é la più
                                                    performante tra le
                                                    navette canon di
                                                    star trek.</p>
                                                  <p>- Stando alle fonti
                                                    che ho trovato in
                                                    rete (hypertrek,
                                                    ditl, memory...) la
                                                    potenza di un
                                                    singolo pulse cannon
                                                    della classe Defiant
                                                    é circa 10 volte
                                                    maggiore di quella
                                                    di un Phaser Tipo X
                                                    (quello della prima
                                                    classe di Galaxy,
                                                    coeva del progetto
                                                    Defiant e
                                                    probabilmente
                                                    utilizzata come
                                                    metro di paragone
                                                    per questa arma,
                                                    visto che il Tipo
                                                    XII é stato
                                                    sviluppato dopo).</p>
                                                  <p>- applicando la
                                                    medesima proporzione
                                                    all'output dei
                                                    Phaser Tipo VI
                                                    (pesantemente
                                                    truccati) montati
                                                    dalla classe Delta
                                                    Flyer, avremmo un
                                                    output complessivo
                                                    di circa 15.000
                                                    Terawatts, ossia
                                                    equivalente al fuoco
                                                    di 3 phaser Tipo X
                                                    di una Galaxy.</p>
                                                  <p>- tre navette così
                                                    armate avrebbero 3/4
                                                    della potenza dei
                                                    soli phaser di una
                                                    galaxy
                                                    base...darebbero
                                                    certo del filo da
                                                    torcere ad un
                                                    d'deridex, ma
                                                    difficilmente
                                                    vincerebbero, dato
                                                    che comunque
                                                    avrebbero una
                                                    capacità difensiva
                                                    molto più ridotta e
                                                    principalmente
                                                    basata sull'agilità
                                                    delle navette
                                                    stesse.</p>
                                                  <p>In conclusione
                                                    potremmo dire che
                                                    una navetta
                                                    costruita sulla base
                                                    del delta flyer, con
                                                    integrata la
                                                    tecnologia dei
                                                    phaser della defiant
                                                    non sarebbe
                                                    realmente più
                                                    potente di una
                                                    defiant (magari di
                                                    una classe più
                                                    piccola, tipo una
                                                    nova), ma in
                                                    squadrone potrebbe
                                                    impensierire una
                                                    nave potente ma
                                                    lenta, specie se
                                                    dotata di armamenti
                                                    principalmente
                                                    frontali.</p>
                                                  <p>Ciò non toglie che
                                                    queste navette
                                                    dovrebbero colpire
                                                    davvero tante volte
                                                    la d'deridex la
                                                    quale, salvo
                                                    tecnologie difensive
                                                    innovative montate
                                                    sulle navette,
                                                    potrebbe
                                                    vaporizzarne una in
                                                    due/tre colpi.</p>
                                                  <p>Ps: per quel che
                                                    concerne lo scontro
                                                    tra la Defiant ed il
                                                    cubo Borg nei pressi
                                                    del Settore 001, la
                                                    Defiant si salva
                                                    unicamente grazie
                                                    alla corazza ad
                                                    ablazione, che le
                                                    permette di
                                                    incassare l'ultima
                                                    bordata di siluri
                                                    dissipando parte
                                                    della potenza. Tale
                                                    tecnologia difensiva
                                                    non sarebbe
                                                    applicabile alle
                                                    navette di cui
                                                    sopra, in quanto lo
                                                    spessore della
                                                    corazza necessario a
                                                    renderla efficace le
                                                    renderebbe talmente
                                                    pesante da rendere
                                                    impossibile
                                                    sfruttare la proprua
                                                    agilità...</p>
                                                  <p>Tutto ciò IMHO,
                                                    ovviamente...</p>
                                                  <p>--<br>
                                                    Inviato da myMail
                                                    per Android</p>
                                                  martedì, 29 settembre
                                                  2015, 09:50PM +02:00
                                                  da Davide 4 <<a></a><a href="mailto:a.majere@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.majere@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
                                                   
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                                                          <div>Prima di
                                                          tutto Grazie
                                                          Silvia, questo
                                                          confronto mi è
                                                          molto utile,
                                                          ma mi permetto
                                                          di dissentire
                                                          sulle tue
                                                          obiezioni <span><span>
                                                          ;-)   </span></span><br>
                                                          La Defiant è
                                                          stata
                                                          progettata per
                                                          combattere i
                                                          Borg, ma
                                                          essere
                                                          progettati per
                                                          qualcosa non
                                                          vuol
                                                          necessariamente
                                                          dire che si
                                                          riesca a
                                                          raggiungere lo
                                                          scopo (potrei
                                                          citarti
                                                          migliaia di
                                                          esempi reali),
                                                          la Defiant
                                                          rischiò di
                                                          squarciarsi in
                                                          due al momento
                                                          dei test,
                                                          inoltre il
                                                          motivo per cui
                                                          la Defiant non
                                                          è esplosa (a
                                                          parte le
                                                          esigenze
                                                          narrative) è
                                                          da ricercare
                                                          nella dinamica
                                                          del
                                                          combattimento,
                                                          prima attacca
                                                          l'avversario
                                                          più
                                                          pericoloso,
                                                          poi la
                                                          minutaglia.<br>
                                                          Ora tocca al
                                                          Warbird:<br>
                                                          1)  Concordo
                                                          che siano
                                                          veloci e
                                                          difficili da
                                                          prendere, ma
                                                          hai mai
                                                          provato a
                                                          mirare andando
                                                          alla massima
                                                          velocità?  Una
                                                          nave stellare
                                                          può sparare
                                                          più volte e
                                                          riuscire a
                                                          prendere la
                                                          navetta che
                                                          per
                                                          distruggere un
                                                          Warbird deve
                                                          colpire il
                                                          bersaglio
                                                          molte volte,
                                                          ai romulani
                                                          basta un solo
                                                          colpo,
                                                          fortunato o di
                                                          bravura.<br>
                                                          2) e 3)
                                                          Navette
                                                          biposto con
                                                          energia
                                                          equivalente ad
                                                          un piccolo
                                                          sole..... dal
                                                          punto di vista
                                                          canonico mi
                                                          sembra un'arma
                                                          di Distruzione
                                                          di Massa non
                                                          conforme alle
                                                          Direttive
                                                          Federali, dal
                                                          punto di vista
                                                          logico non
                                                          capisco perché
                                                          accollarsi le
                                                          spese per
                                                          crea</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><span class="">_______________________________________________<br>
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