[Stml2] [OT] nuovo vs moderno
Silvia Bianchini
ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com
Mar 19 Maggio 2015 19:22:25 CEST
È la mia preferita! (Ignorando il fatto che le linee della voyager sono le
più brutte della flotta stellare.... :-/). La serie che ho apprezzato meno
è senza dubbio ds9
Il 19/mag/2015 19:05, "Coral Nimosit" <coral.nimosit a gmail.com> ha scritto:
> Battlestar Galactica, soprattutto nuova versione, è una figata! Sarò
> contro corrente ma a me è piaciuta molto anche ST Voyager.
>
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> Il 19/mag/2015 18:32, "Silvia Bianchini" <ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>> A me Enterprise è piaciuta, ma oltre a mancare un po' sull'aspetto
>> filosofico, il vero errore è stato non puntare tutto sulla formazione della
>> Federazione. Le puntate migliori sono proprio quelle in cui si percepiscono
>> le basi di quello che sarà. Ho trovato un po' pretestuosa e alla fine
>> inutile perché irrisolta la faccenda della guerra fredda temporale...
>> Secondo me comunque la serie più completa dal punto di vista sociale,
>> psicologico e filosofico è Battlestar Galactica (al secondo posto dopo
>> StarTrek ovviamente... ;-) )
>> P.s. appunto sul costume... Ma devo fargli anche i piercing sulle braccia?
>> Il 19/mag/2015 18:13, "Federico Gotti" <federtrek a gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Più che "non sanno interfacciarsi in maniera corretta con una donna
>>> moderna" io direi proprio con una donna in generale. Con tutti i meriti che
>>> si possono dare a TOS (e sono tanti) per l'emancipazione (ricordare anche
>>> il bacio di Kirk e Uhura) certe cose sono proprio vecchie (e non sto
>>> parlando dell'aspetto estetico o della qualità degli effetti speciali).
>>> Quello che Enterprise ha proprio cannato (a mio parere) era la scarsa
>>> (mi veniva da dire "totale" ma non mi piace essere categorico) presenza di
>>> puntate filosofiche (per citare solo un esempio da TNG che conosco meglio:
>>> La misura di un uomo, 2x09. Puntata che dovrebbe essere usata nelle scuole)
>>>
>>>
>>> Suggerimento per il costume :P
>>>
>>> 2015-05-19 17:52 GMT+02:00 Coral Nimosit <coral.nimosit a gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Sono d'accordo con Silvia, Star Trek nel '60 era avantissimo! I gusti
>>>> estetici si sono evoluti coi tempi (nel bene e nel male!). Gli uomini che
>>>> ricordano con amarcord gli stereotipi di donna anni '50 - '60, o cmq quelle
>>>> che eseguono soltanto i "comandi" del padrone, o scherzano o probabilmente
>>>> non sanno interfacciarsi in maniera corretta con una donna moderna. E
>>>> questo è un problema dell'uomo moderno semmai. Io farei travestire il
>>>> fidanzato da "schiavo Orioniano".....^___*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno 19 maggio 2015 16:39, Silvia Bianchini <ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com
>>>> > ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Beh non ne facevo un discorso caratteriale. TOS pur con tutti i meriti
>>>>> sociali che gli possiamo dare (primo show della TV del 1969 a mettere come
>>>>> protagonisti una donna nera, un asiatico e un russo in piena guerra
>>>>> fredda...), rimane un prodotto di una certa mentalità. Le donne di
>>>>> Enterprise sono generalmente più conscie di loro stesse e più alla pari
>>>>> rispetto a TOS (e a quello che ti ha detto quelle cose...).
>>>>> Il mio era solo un appunto estetico. Banalmente, a mio parere, potendo
>>>>> far vedere meno, puntavano su altri elementi seduttivi...
>>>>> Comunque non va bene... Mi state mettendo in difficoltà col
>>>>> fidanzato... ;-)
>>>>> S.
>>>>> Il 19/mag/2015 14:06, "Ilenia De Battisti" <fulmine791 a gmail.com> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seppur donna mi trovo a concordare con i miei colleghi maschietti..
>>>>>> Enterprice
>>>>>> Purtroppo non so dirti se è per ricordi sulla caratterizzazione delle
>>>>>> due visioni di orioniana (non è tanto per l'aspetto) o per il fatto che una
>>>>>> certa persona mi abbia un po' mandato a male la figura di parecchie donne
>>>>>> presenti nella serie classica (si, quando ti viene detto che quelle erano
>>>>>> le donne ideali perchè stavano zitte e mute al loro posto un po' di
>>>>>> antipatia ti viene ^_^'').
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ciao a tutti ^_^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno 19 maggio 2015 11:20, Silvia Bianchini <
>>>>>> ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tutti uguali... ;-P (capitano escluso ovviamente ^___^)
>>>>>>> S.
>>>>>>> Il 19/mag/2015 10:54, "Federico Gotti" <federtrek a gmail.com> ha
>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mi trovo concorde con il mio illustre collega!
>>>>>>>> concordo che non conti solo la
>>>>>>>> dimensione..............................ma aiuta eccome!! :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-05-18 21:38 GMT+02:00 Coral Nimosit <coral.nimosit a gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Enterprise! [image: 🙌][image: 🙌]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ciao, Ric
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>> Il 18/mag/2015 21:33, "Silvia Bianchini" <ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Numero uno! Non conta solo la dimensione delle tette! ;-P
>>>>>>>>>> Il 16/mag/2015 21:39, "Coral Nimosit" <coral.nimosit a gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise!! [image: 🙌]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ciao, Ric
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> OOO Cmd. Coral Nimosit
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>>>>>>>>>>> USS Novalis NCC 1772
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>>>>>>>>>>> Il 16/mag/2015 17:35, "Silvia Bianchini" <ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eccole :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Il 16/mag/2015 16:05, "Coral Nimosit" <coral.nimosit a gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Non ho presente le schiave orioniane di enterprise. Purtroppo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Qualche foto? [image: 😉]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il 15/mag/2015 16:25, "Silvia Bianchini" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bravo! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il 15/mag/2015 14:35, "Capt. Tetsuya Kuribayashi" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captkuribayashi a gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Io dico che la penso esattamente come te.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michele
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 15 maggio 2015 14:11, Silvia Bianchini <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ltcomm.sibi a gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se mi permettete vorrei aprire una discussione off topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ieri sera per introdurre il mio nuovo fidanzato al mondo di
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> star trek (cosa che insieme alla sci-FI in generale ha sempre ignorato con
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colpa grave) visto che sarebbe stato motivo di rottura XD gli ho fatto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vedere due puntate: la prima di TOS e la seconda di Enterprise. Il tema da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me scelto e che accomunava gli episodi, per invogliarlo a seguire con
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maggiore attenzione, sono state le grazie delle schiave orioniane. Alla
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine è venuto fuori che secondo lui quelle di enterprise erano più sexy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentre secondo me erano solo volgari, preferendo io le bellezze della serie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classica.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vengo qui e giro a voi... Cosa ne pensate? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fatemi sapere che sono curiosa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S.
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>>>> Ciao, Ric
>>>>
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