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    Il 11/10/2017 09:10, Capitano Enizia ha scritto:<br>
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cite="mid:CANW3h9jKXa0+Mx4UBFGKYNZ7R30Y4eOiuQWkSOmQPgh0oE5nTQ@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">Ovviamente qua devo fare un mea culpa.
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        <div>Anche adesso che Franco ha scritto questa mail e anche
          adesso che l'Ammiraglio di lista ha scritto sono riuscita ad
          arrivare tardi. Inutile che vi dica quello che è successo
          tanto sarebbe solo una ennesima motivazione alla mia assenza. </div>
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        <div>Ovviamente mi sento, e sono, in parte responsabile di
          quanto sta accadendo su questa SIM e non so come risolvere
          questo problema. E' che da un anno a questa parte il lavoro mi
          ha letteralmente sommersa e non riesco a ritagliarmi più gli
          spazi di prima. Il mio obiettivo è quello di stabilizzarmi e
          di tornare ad essere operativa come prima, ma purtroppo
          capisco che nel mentre la situazione peggiora...</div>
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    Confermo e sottoscrivo quello che dice Ileana. Purtroppo il lavoro
    mi ha preso più in questo ultimo paio d'anni di quanto facesse in
    passato e ho finito con il dedicare alla lista molta meno attenzione
    di quanto dovessi. Mi dispiace... <br>
    <br>
    A quanto ho letto, mi sembra di capire che il sistema a doppia nave
    piace ancora. Vero? (si, no...?)<br>
    <br>
    Magari, come dice Marco, si può ridurre il numero dei PNG e fare un
    elenco dei superstiti (almeno i principali) da mettere sul sito che
    ne riporti nome grado razza genere (m, f, altro), collocazione a
    bordo, caratteristiche fisiche, magari anche religione o hobby
    quando non è di turno. <br>
    <br>
    Comunque credo che la prima cosa sarebbe tornare a postare
    regolarmente. Quindici giorni per scrivere il pezzo, con altri
    cinque giorni e non più di cinque giorni di tolleranza. Potremmo,
    per esempio, mandare le e-mail di passaggio turno mettendo tutte e
    tre le date: data limite per accettare il turno, il primo termine
    per postare e il secondo con l'indicazione MAX o EVENTUALE.
    S'intende che non è come alle riunioni di condominio, dove la prima
    convocazione è pura forma, mentre la vera riunione è quella della
    seconda convocazione: la vera data di scadenza è la prima e la
    seconda, eventuale, è solo su richiesta esplicita in lista. Che ne
    pensate?<br>
    <br>
    >Comunque sono d'accordo con Monica, vediamo dove ci porta questo
    confronto!<br>
    <br>
    Sono d'accordo anche io ^__^<br>
    <br>
    PS: Ileana... Pensi di poter postare qualcosa o passi il turno?<br>
    <br>
    Ciao! ;-D<br>
    Elena<br>
    --<br>
    ICQ 33856678<br>
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cite="mid:CANW3h9jKXa0+Mx4UBFGKYNZ7R30Y4eOiuQWkSOmQPgh0oE5nTQ@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div>Ileana</div>
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                  <div><strong>Enizia</strong></div>
                  <div>Capitano USS Baffin / FO Progetto Pyteas</div>
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                  <div>Email: <a href="mailto:ten.samak@gmail.com"
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                    Sype: dolcevoloo<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 10 ottobre 2017 19:17, Monica
          Miodini <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:hannadegliiapigi@hotmail.it" target="_blank"
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          ha scritto:<br>
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style="direction:ltr;margin:0;padding:0;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black;background-color:white">Dire
                i che il tuo discorso non fa una piega,  se non ci
                impegnano di più sui turni non serve ridurre il numero
                delle navi,  perché aspettando così tanto tra un turno e
                l'altro,  si perde il piacere del gioco.
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style="direction:ltr;margin:0;padding:0;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black;background-color:white">Luigi
                aspetta ad uscire  , stai a vedere cosa viene fuori da
                questo confronto. <br>
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                      moz-do-not-send="true">Outlook per Android</a></div>
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                    href="mailto:stml9-bounces@gioco.net"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stml9-bounces@gioco.net</a>>
                  on behalf of Rick Maelstrom <<a
                    href="mailto:rickmaelstrom@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rickmaelstrom@gmail.com</a>><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:11:58 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Progetto Pytheas<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stml9] Fwd: Re: Huston, abbiamo
                  un problema...</font>
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                      <div>Mi intrometto per aiutare.</div>
                      <div>Quello che mi preoccupa un po' non è tanto
                        che su 8 che dovreste essere uno ha già lasciato
                        (Franco), uno vorrebbe farlo (Luigi) e non avete
                        ancora risposto tutti ad un messaggio di tale
                        importanza. Ovviamente per mille
                        comprensibili motivi (lavoro, tempo, voglia,
                        ecc.)</div>
                      <div>Quello che davvero mi lascia perplesso è che
                        tra una cosa e l'altra gli ultimi due brani sono
                        stati mandati (correggetemi se mi sono perso
                        emails) il 24 luglio e poi il 13 agosto.</div>
                      <div>Da lì nulla.</div>
                      <div>Serrare i turni va bene, ma la cosa funziona
                        se il gioco rimane divertente.</div>
                      <div>Se diventa un "Va beh, adesso scrivo, che
                        palle 'sta nave...." allora la proposta di Elena
                        non troverà grandi appigli.</div>
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                      </div>
                      <div>Ridurre le navi ad una è il primo dovuto
                        passo, ma sui tempi di scrittura dovete davvero
                        essere d'accordo e si devono purtroppo fare
                        controlli da parte dei due capitani per tenere
                        tutti in riga (metaforicamente e in modo
                        assolutamente gioviale).</div>
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                                          <span style="font-size:12.8px">Ammiraglio
                                            di collegamento Rick
                                            Maelstrom</span><br
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                                            non c’è niente di più bello
                                            dell’istante che precede il
                                            viaggio, l’istante in cui
                                            l’orizzonte del domani viene
                                            a renderci visita e a
                                            raccontarci le sue promesse.</span></div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 10 ottobre 2017
                        11:46, Maddalena <span dir="ltr">
                          <<a href="mailto:vampitrill@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vampitrill@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        ha scritto:<br>
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                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Ciao,<br>
                            vi rimando l'email di risposta alla
                            discussione che, per sbaglio, qualche giorno
                            fa ho mandato solo ad Elena invece che in
                            lista. Aggiungo, dopo aver letto i commenti
                            altrui nel frattempo, che ammetto di essere
                            rimasta un po' stupita. Nel senso che la
                            lista era sì un po' lenta, ma non mi ero
                            accorta che ci fosse un problema di questo
                            genere e così sentito.<br>
                            <br>
                            Maddy<br>
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                                    <td>Re: [Stml9] Huston, abbiamo un
                                      problema...</td>
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                                    <td>Sun, 8 Oct 2017 20:03:26 +0200</td>
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                                    <td>Maddalena <a
class="m_4075144745399082062m_-9024121989015629809m_-8731881026997152145moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vampitrill@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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                                        <vampitrill@gmail.com></a></td>
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                                    <td>Elena Fuccelli <a
class="m_4075144745399082062m_-9024121989015629809m_-8731881026997152145moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        href="mailto:mf9115@mclink.it"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        <mf9115@mclink.it></a></td>
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                              Sopprimere una nave con il suo caricone di
                              png non sarebbe un problema e credo anche
                              che non sia ciò che caratterizza la sim.
                              Ho sempre visto la particolarità
                              nell'ambientazione più che nel fatto di
                              avere due navi. Forse questo
                              semplificherebbe un po' le cose.
                              <br>
                              In quanto ai turni, sforare di qualche
                              giorno capita a tutti e non è che sia una
                              tragedia. Certo, a volte, qui sforiamo un
                              po' tanto. Forse potremmo cercare di
                              essere un po' più regolari. E vediamo se
                              così, le cose si riavviano.<br>
                              <br>
                              Maddy<span><br>
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class="m_4075144745399082062m_-9024121989015629809m_-8731881026997152145moz-cite-prefix">Il
                                  08/10/2017 18:05, Elena Fuccelli ha
                                  scritto:<br>
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                                  <p>Ciao a tutti. Approfitto della
                                    e-mail di Monica per chiedere il
                                    parere di tutti. 
                                    <br>
                                  </p>
                                  <p>I problemi che ha segnalato Franco
                                    nella sua e-mail di addio sono
                                    essenzialmente due e discendono
                                    dalle caratteristiche stesse della
                                    nostra sim: eccessivo numero di PNG
                                    da gestire (dipende dalla struttura
                                    a doppia nave) e turni che si
                                    dilatano nel tempo. La soluzione al
                                    primo problema potrebbe essere
                                    quella di ridurre la sim ad una sola
                                    nave eliminando la maggior parte dei
                                    PNG, sacrificando quindi la
                                    caratteristica che distingue la
                                    nostra dalle altre sim; la soluzione
                                    al secondo problema potrebbe essere
                                    quella di ridurre i turni o di
                                    maggiore severità nel richiedere il
                                    rispetto dei turni (in altre parole:
                                    due settimane e non più di due
                                    settimane a turno). Vorrei avere il
                                    parere di tutti; e se pensate che ci
                                    siano altri problemi oltre a quelli
                                    segnalati da Franco o altre
                                    possibili soluzioni, vorrei che ne
                                    parlassimo qui in lista.  <br>
                                  </p>
                                  Ciao! ;-D<br>
                                  Elena<br>
                                  --<br>
                                  ICQ 33856678<br>
                                  <br>
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class="m_4075144745399082062m_-9024121989015629809m_-8731881026997152145moz-cite-prefix">Il
                                    06/10/2017 16:48, Monica Miodini ha
                                    scritto:<br>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:black;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;direction:ltr;background-color:white">Noooo
                                      Franco :((<br>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:black;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;direction:ltr;background-color:white">Mi
                                      dispiace molto, ma devo dire che
                                      il mio pensiero è molto simile al
                                      tuo purtroppo!
                                      <br>
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                                    <div dir="auto"
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:black;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;direction:ltr;background-color:white">Rimango
                                      perché ho solo due sim su cui
                                      scrivo. <br>
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                                    <div dir="auto"
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:black;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;direction:ltr;background-color:white">Baci
                                      Monica <br>
                                      <br>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:black;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;direction:ltr;background-color:white">Ottieni
                                        <a href="https://aka.ms/ghei36"
                                          target="_blank"
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                                          per Android</a></div>
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                                      <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 6,
                                      2017 9:25:16 AM<br>
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                                      <b>Subject:</b> [Stml9] Un saluto
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                                        <div>Salve a tutti,</div>
                                        <div>scrivo per salutare i
                                          giocatori di questa sim perchè
                                          ho deciso di chiudere la mia
                                          iscrizione a questa nave.</div>
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                                        <div>Nessun problema
                                          naturalmente con SFI o con voi
                                          tutti, il mio problema sono le
                                          difficoltà di questa sim come
                                          il numero di PNG che rendono i
                                          brani più complicati e
                                          faticosi da scrivere e
                                          ultimamente (ormai da quasi un
                                          anno) per i tempi lunghi di
                                          attesa fra i vari brani.</div>
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                                        <div>In ogni caso mi troverete
                                          sulle altre navi a cui sono
                                          iscritto.</div>
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                                        <div>Un saluto.</div>
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                                        <div>PS: Potete usare
                                          tranquillamente il mio PG</div>
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                                          Lt. Piotr Alexei Volkoff<br>
                                          Capo della Sicurezza<br>
                                          USS Baffin NCC-69096<br>
                                          Skype Combadge: Silente69<br>
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                                          ==============================<wbr>=====<br>
                                          "Colpisci. Una volta iniziato
                                          il combattimento, colpisci.
                                          Ogni altra cosa è secondaria."
                                          (La spada della Verità)</span></div>
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